hearsthesea: (faraway world of our dreams)
Shirley Fennes ([personal profile] hearsthesea) wrote in [community profile] spellbinders2017-11-19 11:22 pm

Mingle: For a limited time only...

Who: Everyone!
Where: Anywhere on the hub
When: Days 134-139
Open/Closed: Open mingle goooo!

[Copper, lizards, and vines - oh my! With the recent installation of 9S and co.'s scanning equipment and the also recent, significantly wetter rainstorms there's quite a lot to check out on the island right now. Plus, the monitor robot still needs a name. You're not going to leave them nameless forever, are you?

Too bad Genette's put out word that everyone's about to be moving location soon. That means these are the last days the coven has for a little while to get everything in order, whether it's to take things to the next destination or to leave them behind. Get your bags packed and your huts cleaned, everyone!]
terezias: (a blind bit of)

[personal profile] terezias 2017-12-06 09:20 pm (UTC)(link)
[She flips the coin. It does indeed land scratch-side up. She takes it and shows it to him.]

So you chose correctly. That is, however, not the important part. The important part is that you made a choice.

You see, every choice you make creates a branch in the timeline. There is a universe identical to this one in every respect except that you chose heads instead--or at least, there would be, if this were paradox space. I am not sure the same rules apply here!
rootandbranch: (tomorrow it can worry 'bout itself.)

[personal profile] rootandbranch 2017-12-06 09:50 pm (UTC)(link)
[Geir stretches out his huge nose to just barely touch the coin in her hand, sniffing it curiously.]

So the "alpha timeline" is...?
terezias: (blind man and the elephant)

[personal profile] terezias 2017-12-06 09:59 pm (UTC)(link)
The dominant timeline. The one in which choices are made which do not create paradoxes.

Timelines which are not the alpha timeline are called "doomed timelines," because they tend to result in the deaths of the people who populate them. For example, if we had not decided to play the game, we would have shortly died in something called the Vast Glub.
rootandbranch: (lost; am i broken?)

[personal profile] rootandbranch 2017-12-06 10:04 pm (UTC)(link)
[he tilts his head.]

Who decides what makes a paradox?
terezias: (are you blind?)

[personal profile] terezias 2017-12-06 10:09 pm (UTC)(link)
No one in particular. Events that have already happened. Interference from other universes.

[She pauses.]

I am not a Time player. But players of Sgrub are typically embroiled in a lot of what one might call "weird time bullshit."
rootandbranch: (seek and i have found)

[personal profile] rootandbranch 2017-12-06 10:14 pm (UTC)(link)
That, I don't understand either. Is it because there's a lot of doomed time sloshing around?

[Geir's grasp of doomed timelines is still rather fuzzy, but he's trying.]
terezias: (at first sight)

[personal profile] terezias 2017-12-06 10:24 pm (UTC)(link)
Partially! Interference from doomed timelines is part of what causes weird time bullshit. The other part is interference from other universes--in our case, from our game session and from the universe we created.

[She frowns; she's not entirely happy with that explanation.]

I can give examples, if you would like.
rootandbranch: (and people are singing; how 'bout that!)

[personal profile] rootandbranch 2017-12-06 10:33 pm (UTC)(link)
I would like! Go on, please.

[all the people from Dirk's world that Geir's talked to at any length are so willing to talk. it's wonderful.]
terezias: (turn a blind eye)

[personal profile] terezias 2017-12-06 10:48 pm (UTC)(link)
[She smiles. Excitable dragon is fun??]

I said that we were actually created by Karkat within the game, and sent back to the time of our "birth" on Alternia. That is an example of Sgrub interfering with our home universe. You see, universes are not temporally joined, I don't think. Qri took us all from the same point in paradox space, more or less, but she could have reached through and taken us from earlier--or later, perhaps, although I do not think you can take someone from later than their death.

It is the same way with Sgrub. A meteor being sent from our Sgrub session to Alternia could arrive at any point in Alternian history, long before or long after the point where we started playing the game.
rootandbranch: (reach out; till i can touch the sky)

[personal profile] rootandbranch 2017-12-06 11:53 pm (UTC)(link)
"Universes are not temporally joined," huh?

[Geir sits up outright at that, tail curling in around his forefeet and lashing a little. now, that's an entirely new idea.]

You mean time can be passing one way one place, and differently in another place?! How?!
terezias: (look a sight)

[personal profile] terezias 2017-12-07 12:02 am (UTC)(link)
[She nods.]

Or rather--at any point in time in our Sgrub session, the entire history of Alternia both has and has not happened. They are separate universes--completely unmoored from one another in both space and time.

The Jade human could probably explain this better than me. She was the humans' Space player.
rootandbranch: (you're here; and that means so much)

[personal profile] rootandbranch 2017-12-07 12:53 am (UTC)(link)
Space and time... yeah, maybe I'll ask Jade too.

What's the difference between different worlds and different universes? Or different realms? We don't-- we don't have anything like this where I'm from, at all.

[all of it being a game feels strange to him, too. a war, or a pact, or a bet-- those all make sense as stakes in the fates of worlds, in a misty corner of Geir's mind. maybe it's a betting game like dice; Terezi's coin toss makes him think of that a little.]

You can't walk from one realm to another, but they're connected in time and space, as far as I know...
terezias: (turn a blind eye)

[personal profile] terezias 2017-12-08 09:47 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't know about realms. We probably don't have those, unless you count game sessions. But you can travel between worlds normally, if you have the right ship. Trolls conquered many other planets. As for universes . . .

[She leans over and draws a circle in the dirt.]

Imagine that this is a universe consisting of many planets, or worlds. If you were outside that universe, you could access any point in space and time inside that universe.

[She then draws twelve circles in a ring around it, and, after a pause, another two for Prospit and Derse.]

That is where we were with regards to the universe we created. It was a place inside our game session, with its entire history within it.
rootandbranch: (dreamin' dreamin')

[personal profile] rootandbranch 2017-12-09 12:43 am (UTC)(link)
So worlds are related to each other by time and space, since they're all inside a universe, and other universes... aren't. I wonder if realms are sort of the same, but inside a world...

[he stares at Terezi's diagram for a disconcertingly long time. at least he didn't seem to have too much trouble following her explanation once he had a picture...]

--we don't know if we're in the same universe as the ones where we came from, then. Do we.
terezias: (see the forest for the trees)

[personal profile] terezias 2017-12-09 03:00 am (UTC)(link)
[She has to think about that one, frowning.]

I would be very surprised if we were in either the universe Alternia is in or the one we created. It doesn't fit the pattern of the game at all. And we are certainly not in a session of Sgrub.

[Although they could easily still be in paradox space--she decides not to mention that for the moment, thinking it might be overloading to introduce paradox space back into the equation at this point.]

I would not, however, discount the possibility that we are in your universe. Or any of the ones belonging to people here who do not obviously come from paradox space.
rootandbranch: (crack the reins carry the fight)

[personal profile] rootandbranch 2017-12-09 03:09 am (UTC)(link)
I guess there's way to know unless we find a way to talk to our own worlds again. We can at least see if time's been passing the same when we go to another world from here, though, now that we have the pods. So if Qri's moving us between universes when we go to other places, we can find out!

[having something they can definitely figure out instead of guessing at is at least reassuring...]
terezias: (turn a blind eye)

[personal profile] terezias 2017-12-09 03:26 am (UTC)(link)
We can. It would be a bit odd if she was not, considering she can pull people from across universes . . . but maybe this universe is the only one that has the energy she needs.
rootandbranch: (you're here; and that means so much)

[personal profile] rootandbranch 2017-12-09 04:04 am (UTC)(link)
[Geir sits up properly, bouncing a little on his front claws.]

I want to find out! Oh, I wish she didn't answer so slowly!

[honestly, he's interested as much for learning's sake as he is in order to affect their situation.]
terezias: (heave in sight)

[personal profile] terezias 2017-12-10 01:46 am (UTC)(link)
Are you always this excitable?

[She doesn't sound like she minds, mind you.]
rootandbranch: (reach out; till i can touch the sky)

[personal profile] rootandbranch 2017-12-10 03:45 am (UTC)(link)
[Geir peers down at Terezi, wide-eyed. it doesn't dispell the impression.]

Am I excitable? If I am, I guess I must be! Aren't you interested?
terezias: (a blind bit of)

[personal profile] terezias 2017-12-10 07:57 am (UTC)(link)
I am, a little bit. I do not get as excited as you, I don't think.

[She pauses and tilts her head, thinking about that.]

Well, unless I am doing it on purpose.
rootandbranch: (and people are singing; how 'bout that!)

[personal profile] rootandbranch 2017-12-12 01:17 am (UTC)(link)
[Geir laughs. it's such a funny way to think about and interact with one's own excitement.]

So what is it that you get excited about on purpose?
terezias: (turn a blind eye)

[personal profile] terezias 2017-12-12 01:56 am (UTC)(link)
It depends. Whatever will annoy other people, sometimes. Drawing. Dragons. The law.

[Geir asks such interesting questions.]
rootandbranch: (good things are always on the way)

[personal profile] rootandbranch 2017-12-15 12:31 am (UTC)(link)
[in mock-horror:]

Odin's beard! You annoy other people on purpose? How could you!

[he's chuckling, though. Geir has a soft spot for tricksters, except for when he doesn't.]

I've never drawn anything. I guess dragons are pretty cool, since I'm one! And I don't know why laws are exciting. Your life sounds very interesting and different from mine.

[not that many people have lives like him, but it's never bad to be explicit about what he thinks when people answer his questions.]